442ndRCT Soldier's Forum

Reprint from WW2Reenactor Forum

Right now it will be a Western ETO, Summer 1944, with more details in the Fall as needed.

It will again be a great event, as the past 3 have continued to grow in size and in fun!

Ask anyone who has attended an event sponsored by FJR 5 and they will confirm they had a great time!

We've fielded 29 FJs by combining our Units with other like-minded FJ Units. We look to have around 40 FJ in the field, as we've already got firm commitments from Units in Washington/Oregon, Midwest, back East, as well as with FJR 2 (SoCal).
We may also get some FJ Reenactors from overseas as well!

As usual, the CHG Event is open to everyone who chooses to abide by the CHG Bylaws:
http://www.chgww2.com/bylaws.htm
and follow our simple and fair rules
http://www.chgww2.com/guestinfo.htm

FJR 5 will also be holding a special FJ Training Event, starting the evening of Thursday, 6 November, with tactical and classroom training Friday, and the battles Saturday and Sunday.
This is a private portion of the event.
PM me if you want more info on this.

We've held these before and they are alot of fun! Basically, it will be "an event within an event"!


The Tactical portion of the CHG Spring and Fall Events are always alot of fun, with some of the nicest guys you can meet in Reenacting.

Camp Roberts is a Class III friendly location (unlike California, unless you got the license years ago), as it's a Federal Reservation and you are allowed to transport them through "unfriendly territory"!
There are also usually 1 or 2 gentlemen who rent Class IIIs.

This event is becoming a "West Coast Regional"

Rick Wasson (the printer) and Mike Burns (graphics guy) are putting together an advertising Flyer to "save the date". These guys do tremendous work. They plan on sending these flyers to out-of-state organizations in order to create a event which will put us in the National Spotlight, i.e. becoming the "GAP of the West"

Here is a demo copy of what their flyers look like

Due to a last minute need by the military to use the barrack facilities, the Novemeber CHG Camp Roberts battle will not be a "barrack’s event" this one time around, but rather be a Camp in the battlefield event.

It was discussed about moving dates. but at this time frame, people have purchased airplane tickets, have booked armor vehicle transportation, and schedule time-off from work, for both California reenactors, but also the many out of state groups coming.

Nobody perfers this, and there were several attempts by the Camp Robert adminstration to find a work around, but in the end, it wasn’t in the cards.

We will be bringing the tent heater this time so not everyone will fit in the big tent. It will house 8 people with cots.

1. Mayo
2. Copeland
3. Mex Bob
4. Dave P
5. Tim
6. Fernie
7.
8.

All others will have to use shelter halves. Speak up if you do not have a pup tent (shelter halves). I have two, Mex Bob has one, Fernie has one, Copeland has one, Dave has one, Tim has one. That is 7 pup tents there. That will house 14 troops so we should have enough tentage to accomodate all folks as long as you tell us that you are coming. Also, we need to come up with a menu as we will be camping, so we will not be going into town for chow.

Breakfast for Saturday will be Spam and Eggs
Breakfast for Sunday will be Corned Beef Hash and Eggs
Dinner Friday will be pork and beans again (I have one remaining huge can of this glorious concoction, yum).
Lunch on Saturday and Sunday will be cold field rations.
Does anyone have any ideas for Saturday dinner or do you guys want to do Chili again?
Fernie, we can replace the Corned beef has one morning with Breakfast Burritos if you so wish and want to bring them.
So unless the menu is changed, we each need to bring:
1 can of Chili
1 can of Spam (lite if possible)
1 can of veggies (corn or carrots)
4 Eggs
***I already have enough corned beef hash***
Can someone bring cornbread? Volunteers?

Like last event, please make sure you bring water in those large bottles we can put in the water cooler. I will bring washing water in two or three Jerry cans.
Someone bring paper towels. I will bring trash bags and the collapsable can. Bring toilet paper. There are supposed to be portable Privys. Everyone bring their e-tool for fire firghting if needed, and for cat holes in case you are in thei field and have to do that emergency toilet adventure. We usually get to stay in the barracks, but this will still be fun. We will not spend as much money on chow in town due to the controlled eating at our encampment. Also, once we get into uniform, let's stay in the 1940's until we are ready to leave. No talk about modern stuff until we are packing up to leave.

I'll bring the period tunes, news broadcast, and Bob Hope specials. And maybe the morning revelry. As well as some salted nuts for evening BS sessions.


Mike we should make a master list, like for a pot-luck, and have people indicate/sign-up for items. This way we don't have too much of one thing and not of enough of something elses.

There is a chance we might have a second large tent, but I doubt it will be ready in time. I'm in the process of arranging with the LHA to get a reproduction tent but those things take time to make so I doubt it would be ready in time.

Also I was contacted by the Japanese reenactors in Japan. There are three of them that want to join us. Taisho, you better brush up on your Japanese!

I take it, these guys will be reenacting 442nd GI's

davep wrote:I take it, these guys will be reenacting 442nd GI's

Yes they will.

I guess I'm up for it if you guys still are. And once again if we have more people then we do tent spaces. I have a patrol bag, winter bag, bivvy sack, and isomat...


In other words: "Mike if I have to sleep out under the stars it won't hurt me or anyone else's feelings or physical health."

You can only sleep outside if you have a period bag or blankets.

Mayo wrote:You can only sleep outside if you have a period bag or blankets.

Blankets it is... I'm no stranger to suffering...

We shouldn't use "authenticity" as a standard for sleeping. Sleep time occurs way after "Authentic Time..."

And we shouldn't "pressure" people into the tent. Look a guy who comes ill prepared because camping isn't normally his thing or not having money is not a reason to stick his butt in a shelter half or outside in the cold.

Me, I've slept on more cold, hard, dirty, rocky, hot, cool, warm, and nasty ground then most of guys of that type... I can endure...

If we are camping in the "period" camping area (and we are), then you are not allowed to have non-period items outside of your tent. That is the rule. We do have shelter halves for you to use though. So if you choose to use non-period camping gear, it's ok inside a tent, any period tent. It's not that hard to understand this. This applies to all of us. If you want to use non-period stuff outside of the tent, then sleep in the parking lot, or the non-period camping area. It seems simple to me. Am I being unlcear? This is in the "spirit of the game." The only thing we want to have outside of the tents that is not period correct are the stoves for cooking. The period ones are not easy to find, expensive, and more dangerous to use. So, we use propane stoves. If we do not adhere to this rule, it was a waste of money for us to buy that M1934 tent and the shelter halves. We could have bought a Circus tent instead.

This event will be different, there will be not 50, or 75, or even 100 guys, but rather 300 to 400 guys. At the CHG meeting they talked about two camps; period camps and non-period camps. The non-period camp, was for starters for those who would be coming with motor homes or campers. Or in the case of the Barrack-only reenactors, who don't have period encampment gear to use thier modern tents in the non-period camps.

This sort of camping will be different, because given the amount of people and the amount of out of state people the bar for non-period camps will be higher. But as always, without a standard or missing standard, we tend to use the standards which work best for us. That "us" could be a group or and individual.

The CHG rules are very clear. What has happen, is the positions of Authenicity Officers, has gone vaccant and unfilled. At the last CHG Meeting, John Marketello said that with two new units wanting to join the CHG we need fill the two Authenicity Officers positions, one for the Allies and one for the Axis. CHG administration feels that authenicity has become a conviences vs. a requirement. Also people aren't following the bylaws as far as taking hits, cover and rules of engagement, so there is going to be a push for the corporate Authenicity Officers. And why at this event everyone is going to be given the rules, and on the field a note is going to be made of who is and who is not following the rules as written.

To the extent there are gray areas, I suggest we make a list, and get them addressed at the next CHG board meeting. Or we can run them by Stan Wolcott before that to get a first pass at an answer. Lets face it, if we have the question other units will have the same questions. Who knows 2nd Armor may even do their breakfast, cooking, hot water set-up.

Also remember this event is going to be photographed and videotape. Everything will show up, and the CHG wants this to be a showcase for promoting and advertising future events.


Here are the CHG rules for encampments

SECTION 4: PERIOD MILITARY ENCAMPMENTS
A. It is CHG's philosophy to maintain the most accurate impression possible. The goal of this section is to delineate general criteria for regulating authenticity of period encampments at battle re-enactments. Rather than specify in detail the items required for replicating period military encampments of any given nationality, this section shall set forth
general standards relating to military bivouacs.

B. Definition of "Period Military Encampment". The term "Period Military Encampment" or "Encampment" is defined by these Bylaws as a World War Two-era military bivouac. The authenticity and safety of the Encampment is to be maintained with the highest possible adherence to military specifications and/or standards. Up to this time Authencity has not been reviewed, enforced, or overseen. So there as been a weakening and a interest in such things.

C. Encampments shall be within the CHG authenticity officers' jurisdiction for authenticity enforcement.
D. All Encampments shall have the following characteristics.
1. Encampments shall be nationalized;
2. Encampments shall be organized and conducted pursuant to prescribed
military standards;
3. Encampments shall utilize latrines as prescribed in official WWII military
regulations to the greatest extent possible;
4. Period vehicles shall be routed and parked according to official WWII
military regulations;
5. Military kitchens shall utilize stoves, burners, pots, utensils, etc. that are
genuine or an accurate facsimile thereof and shall be operated according to
official WWII military regulations;
6. All tents and accessories thereto shall consist of genuine and/or accurate
facsimiles of genuine equipment; and
7. Chairs, tables, bedding, cots, lights and lanterns, tent stoves, etc. and any
other form of interior and exterior camp equipment shall be genuine or
accurate facsimiles thereof.

Mike, if there are still two spots in your pyramid tent, Josh and I would be obliged to bunk w/you guys. If not, that's fine too. I have two shelter halves that he and I can share. Also, I can bring a few rolls of paper towels. Should I bring some of my crates to give our encampment a more period look? I have a C-rat crate, grenade crate, TNT crate and an ammo crate (early war). Just let me know.

.... and Randy I have your 133rd sign which I bring to the RPS battle this weekend