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Postby kanowarrior on Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:15 pm

Well, unless anyone has a better idea for a working .50 cal here in the wonderful Republic of Kalifornia we will be going with a gas fire gun. I should be ordering it before the end of the week from IRAC.

Anybody got any better ideas? I'm all ears and thank you PC liberals for denying me my right to bear a .50 cal. [smilie=a_madtongue.gif]

I wish I could have afforded one back in the day...
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Postby kanowarrior on Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:02 pm

I just called to place an order, but since they are in Ohio they are probably closed now. I left a message with my phone number and hopefully by tomorrow I will have our new toy on order.

I saw on their website the gas guns are made to order so this might take a bit.
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Postby osok1953 on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:42 pm

What are you going to name the Ma Duece Tim?
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Postby Mayo on Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:59 pm

How about "Can opener?" :lol: 8) :wink:
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Postby M14MSgt on Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:18 pm

I know TNW sells a S/A M2HB...but it's not CA legal. TNW is where I got my .30 from.
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Postby kanowarrior on Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:05 pm

Yeah, I found the semi-auto .50 cals and I sure wish I could get one, but they friggin made the caliber illegal! I could have a subcaliber weapon made, but was told it would probably run upwards to $12,000.00. A little much for my pocket.

Hey, can anyone out there find out where I can pick up a ground mount for this bad boy?
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Postby Mayo on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:39 am

You wants tripod for the ground?
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Postby Mayo on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:49 am

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Postby kanowarrior on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:33 pm

Got a call this morning from IRAC. We got lucky again! Told me that normally they have a 4-6 week waiting period but they had one in the shop that somebody backed out from. They said they can have it shipped by Friday and be here mid week next week.

I'm sending out a check today.

I will need someone to help me get it set up for gas fire. Need hoses and gas canisters. They run it on Oxygen/Propane. If it doesn't muck it up I was thinking an Oxygen/Mapp gas mix might be better, but don't want to melt the darn thing.
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Postby kanowarrior on Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:52 pm

Today I got a tripod on order from Sarco. The .50 cal ought to be ready for the Chino Airshow as long as somebody helps me assemble it so it's working.

From what I'm told it looks like we ought to have both the gun and tripod by the end of next week.
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Postby davep on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:36 pm

What does this bad boy look like (the machine gun) does the vendor have a website?
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Postby barcelonablom on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:38 pm

davep wrote:What does this bad boy look like (the machine gun) does the vendor have a website?


Never thought I'd be Dave to the punch on a website...

http://www.iracinc.com/sim_fire_50calhbm2.htm

Wow their site is huge you need to scroll over to see things... The video is interesting... Muzzle flash is all right me thinks... BUT its nothing like the real thing :D I've seen one for real... its breathtaking... literally if you're next to it... or if the .50 slug hits you in the lung... :P
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Postby barcelonablom on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:44 pm

Yeah during the day its negligent you can watch all the assortments on youtube... but at night or when its dark they are spectacular...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMOmLknUnxU&feature=related
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Postby Spiggy on Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:33 am

a M2 is a non-shoulder fired weapon, therefore is in the same class as 1919 non-longarms/non-hanguns (Title-1 Firearm)

Therefore, is exempt from the .50bmg ban, which specifically states any longarm capable chambering and firing .50BMG.
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Postby kanowarrior on Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:28 am

Spiggy wrote:a M2 is a non-shoulder fired weapon, therefore is in the same class as 1919 non-longarms/non-hanguns (Title-1 Firearm)

Therefore, is exempt from the .50bmg ban, which specifically states any longarm capable chambering and firing .50BMG.


How sure of that are you? From what I'm told they made the caliber illegal as well. I can't find a single gun store owner who will get one for me. I'd still like to get one if it's possible, but without getting anyone to accept or sell me one I'm still dead in the water on that issue.

Ok, I just checked on the net, found the law and discovered the law does in fact seem to exclude M2's from the ban. However it goes on to ban the caliber. Then I found mention that the caliber part was dropped in the final bill, but if you go back to the TNW website with the people who make semi-auto .50 cals

http://www.tnwfirearms.com/guns_m2hb.shtml

They specifically state:

This firearm will shoot semi-auto only and cannot be converted to full-auto. This firearm is
BATF approved and may be legally owned in all 49 states...not in "The People's Republic of Arnold".


So we are left with a Catch-22 situation here. According to the law, MAYBE the weapon is legal. MAYBE the caliber is legal. But the real catcher here is if you can't get the manufacturer's to sell you one the entire thing becomes a moot point.

Now add to that 'assault weapon .50 cals' were required to be registered by 2006 at the latest without exception. True, the M2 MIGHT not fall under this law, but if it does then you can't legally own on in this state anyway.

So with all those MIGHT's and MAYBE's you would be taking a huge chance if there was any possible way to get this thing into this state. I'll make a few more phone calls about it but this is possibly a far bigger risk than it's worth.

We are stuck with a gas gun guys.
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