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Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby Mayo on Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:28 pm

This guy is a reenactor back East. He now takes credit card orders. He carries all the standard calibers including the short .45 blanks that we use in our 1911A1 .45's.

http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:30 am

Guys, I should have the Credit Card set up by the first of August give or take a few days. The delay comes in having the company customize the system for my use. The good part is that it will be very user friendly for the customer so it will be worth the short delay.

I have started this due to conversations with Mayo so you have him to thank.

I will be here on this forum at least once a day and will do my best to serve anyone and help out as much as I can.

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby Mayo on Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:35 am

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby kanowarrior on Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:42 pm

Hey Robb, how long are your 7.7mm Arisaka blanks? Joe Swanson's old 7.7's were to short till we got him to lengthen them a 1/4 inch a year ago. After that they fed like a charm.
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:03 pm

Kanowarrior, I have the short rounds made from .30-06 or .270 brass.

I can turn full length 8mm blanks into 95% length 7.7 Japanese blanks if they are requested. No one has ever asked though.

I can test a few this week and let you know how they work if you are interested.

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby kanowarrior on Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:20 pm

AtlanWallBlanks wrote:Kanowarrior, I have the short rounds made from .30-06 or .270 brass.

I can turn full length 8mm blanks into 95% length 7.7 Japanese blanks if they are requested. No one has ever asked though.

I can test a few this week and let you know how they work if you are interested.

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I can measure Joe's 7.7 if you like. If they are to short they won't feed properly and no one will want them. Arisaka's are very picky.
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby davep on Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:54 pm

Tim - per Robb's website he indicates his rounds are "full length"

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:17 pm

Dave, the picture may be a bit deceiving, the round shown is a .270 cased blank and is not full length as per what Kanowarrior is asking.

I will go back and edit the page this weekend so there is nothing misleading. If you were mislead others will be as well and that was not my intent.

Rule number 1 guys, feedback good or bad is always appreciated, I can't fix what I don't know is broken and while it may be obvious to me what something is, YOU may not perceive it the same way. Communication is always good.

I will work on the 8x57 - 7.7 Japanese full length case this weekend and provide full details on length vs a live round compared to the case pictured above. I am confident that it will work.

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby Spiggy on Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:38 am

AWB, If you need, I can get calipers and size up the length and neck case dimensions required to feed correctly in our rifles
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:34 am

I appreciate the offer. I have all the specs. for the live round, if you could just give me the OAL for the Swanson rounds you are using it would be helpful to give you guys more information to go off of.

I have a large order of short rounds that I just received. I am making them now and will see if I can use my digital camera to make a short "movie" and upload it to Youtube. (I have never done that but I think I can figure it out) In my early Type 99 pictured above, they seem to feed quite well but I know that individual weapons will vary.

I will try to get it online sometime tonight. If I get this working I will upload the 8x57 reconfiguration as well.

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby kanowarrior on Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:50 am

I measured Swanson's 7.7mm blanks. His original ones were to short. His new ones that feed well are 80 millimeters in length.
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:38 am

Sorry for the delay, getting ready to go out of town a few days for a project.

In short, no matter what design I used, the short 7.7 would not feed out of the left side. You could file the feed ramp.........I am not into defacing the weapon though.

The 8x57 rounds that I was sure would work were also a failure. Length was 70.84mm I was / am still very surprised at that as I was confident that it would work. It does look as if you will need the long rounds for the time being.

I spoke with a group from the Maryland area at length about this and they told me that they use a mix of Swansons long rounds and my short rounds to extend their shooting. It takes a bit of planning before the event, but what they do is load the clips staggered in a way so that when inside the magazine, my rounds are always to the right and the Swanson rounds are always to the left. This way they get good feeding and reduce the overall cost of shooting. I had never thought of that but it is logical.

To be honest, I probably won't carry the full length cases until sometime next year with the 5.56mm, 8x33 and Carcano projects promised before anything else at this point.

I hope this is helpful, but I think that saying straight up that my rounds are not the best choice with out some work on your end is the most honest answer I can give.

I know A LOT, but still have A LOT to learn and thank you guys for your time and input.

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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby davep on Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:50 am

Robb

For the normal blanks (Garands, Carbines, etc) what quantities does the average reenactor order in? Also how much lead time. We here on the west coast have to learn to order blanks ahead of time, or even better have a personal stock so we are always covered. How do guys you deal with handle their blanks.
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby Spiggy on Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:19 pm

the OAL on a swanson 7.7 round is 3.140in
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Re: Atlantic Wall Blanks

Postby AtlanWallBlanks on Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:52 am

davep wrote:Robb

For the normal blanks (Garands, Carbines, etc) what quantities does the average reenactor order in? Also how much lead time. We here on the west coast have to learn to order blanks ahead of time, or even better have a personal stock so we are always covered. How do guys you deal with handle their blanks.


Dave,

There is no average. I tend to put .30-06 blanks in 100 round bags, but can pretty much do what ever the guy buying wants. Usually orders are 100 rounds or more. I tend to discourage orders of less than 100 rounds since shipping is the same for 1-350 rounds. More bang for your buck with the larger order (no pun intended) but I will do what the customer asks for.

The credit card system is in place though it will not be the online checkout as I had hoped.

I have just added credit card ordering info to my web site. Here is all the ordering info from this page: http://www.atlanticwallblanks.com/orderinfo.html

Payment:

We accept personal check, money order, or Cashiers check, Master Card, Visa, Discover & American Express.

Canadian Orders must be in U.S. Dollars.

We do not accept PAY PAL.

Personal check - We will hold it for 7 buisness days for it to clear. We then ship.

Money order or Cashiers Check - We will ship with in 2 business days if I know about your order ahead of time. Usually within 1 day
All other orders of this type will be shipped in one
week or less unless I notify you.
Send all payments to
Robb Walters
P.O. Box 154
Navarre Ohio 44662

Credit Cards

Price shown on the web site is the Cash discount price.
A 3% processing fee will be applied to all Credit Card orders.

Credit card orders may be placed by e-mail, written on the order form, or by phone.

Information needed:
- Card number,
- Exp. date
- 3 number security code on the back.
- Full name and address
- A photo copy of a drivers license, FOID card etc. Any form of Picture I.D. showing
address and age (Must be 18 or over).
Once this is on file it will not be needed again unless you move.
- A written statement that you have no firearms disability and are legally
permitted to purchase ammunition.


No orders will be accepted without all 5 pieces of information.

All personal information will be kept confidential.


For phone orders, call Robb at 330-478-2478
Monday -Thursday
Noon-9:00pm EASTERN TIME

West Coast residents. Please remember that you are 3 hours behind us here in Ohio. A 9:00pm California phone call will be a midnight phone call here. At that point you will be talking to a very upset wife.



The note at the end is to keep me alive. [smilie=a_blue.gif]

I really am not happy about needed the I.D., but with the number of underage kids trying to buy and with liability the way it is anymore I just have to do this. Heck, I had someone from Pakistan try to order yesterday.....

Here is an example of the I.D. with statement I keep on file for when I deal with other companies. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/O ... 916/DL.jpg
E-mail that in once and you are fine after that.

The most important thing for you West Coast guys to remember is that it takes 4 days to ship out there.

If I ship on a Monday, you will not get it until Friday.

Due to the volume of orders I will soon be asking for a 2 week lead time unless we speak and I tell you I can get them there faster. Orders are picking up at an exponential rate (About 20% a month) and while I am making provisions to increase production I need to keep quality up. I would rather be late on a single order than ship bad rounds.

I am getting some very high end equipment this weekend from another blank dealer that is retiring. It will allow me to pretty much make anything I will ever need out of brass. Need 7.62x54R out of .45-70, I will be able to do it.

I need to get back to work, I am providing the rounds for the Thunder Over Michigan air show this weekend and they keep increasing the amount they need.

I'll be back on here Monday.

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